BEGIN:VCALENDAR VERSION:2.0 PRODID:-//jEvents 2.0 for Joomla//EN CALSCALE:GREGORIAN METHOD:PUBLISH BEGIN:VEVENT UID:b3aae3a0351fb1c56c3a4fbe4a1a976b CATEGORIES:Extended Trip CREATED:20191227T035242 SUMMARY:Sefton/Landsborough URL;VALUE=URI:https://www.live.nelsontrampingclub.org.nz/events/events-search-results/117 /sefton-landsborough?tmpl=component DESCRIPTION:IntroductionThis webpage is a collation of all the emails, and should repre sent fairly closely the gear we are taking. Heather and I had a telephone d iscussion around ropes and avalanche gear. See notes in the text for furthe r information.\nThe other hardware is my suggestion for Sefton based on my experience, and discussions with Ben Winnubst.\nPlease read and forward com ments to me and I will update.\nNote: '***' indicates information required. \nPeopleConfirmed:\n\n - Ruth Gray (This email address is being protected f rom spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. ***)\n - Heather Tate (This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it., 027 650 2968)\n - Andy Morris (This email address is b eing protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. ***)\ n - Dave Quested (This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it., 03 5459379, 021 778 144)\n - Mike Drak e (This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it., 03 5224458, 021 1044928, Heather Spence: 022 \nObject iveSefton (main goal), then Walk out via Landsborough.\n[Note: Sefton is no t everyones main goal.]\nCostsVehicle: TBD\nMountain Radio: $??\nRouteHelic opter from Karangarua landing at the head of the Horace Walker Glacier. Est ablish camp around Welcome Pass. Climb Sefton via the west ridge (2+). Retu rn to camp and the next day attain the Horace Walker Hut via Wicks Col. Gai n head of the Landsborough through Douglas Pass; via Mt Howitt, Mt Gladiato r, or if the Douglas River is uncrossable via the north side of  Douglas La ke.\n \nHeather spoke with Lydia Bradley a couple of weeks ago when we saw her at fox, and she said they went off the platform above Pioneer Peak, whi ch is the easiest way so long as there is snow. \nPlanStay NZAC Hut Fox Gla cier December 26th [Mike organise]. Fly in with James Scott Helicopers. Lea ve both cars at the airfield. [secure?].\nHeather, Ruth and Andy are leavin g Christchurch around 15:00 and will arrive Fox Glacier township between 8 - 9pm. So Dave and I will have organised the code. We should arrive late af ternoon, depending on how many coffees we have enroute.\nHeather Spence wil l pickup if we do not fly out.\nDay 1: Fly into head of Horace Walker Glaci er (December 27th), and walk to campsite around Welcome Pass.\nDay 2: Climb Sefton via West Ridge\nDay 3: Horace Walker Hut via Wicks Col\nDay 4: Land sborough via Douglas Pass\nDay 5: \nDay 6:\nDay 7:\nDay 8: Advise Heather S pence progress and likely exit day \nDay 9: \nDay 10: Exit Landsborough\n[N ote: We have currenlty no Plan Bs if Sefton and/or Landsborough is not poss ible due to weather.]\n \nOther InformationCanterbury Mountain Radio 03 343 5020/ 021365618\nJames Scott Helicopters, Karangarua (Fox office) 03 751086 6\nFox Alpine Guides 03 7510825 \n \nRisks\n - River crossings due to snow melt in early summer. Mitigate using standard crossing techniques, which al so means using ropes. [Reference FMC river crossing using rope. Mike to add ***].\n - Weather stopping progress down Landsborough. [Also weather preve nting pickup by helicopter.]\n - Crevasses, although unless there has been heavy snow the glaciers will be well consolidated. Mitigated by roping up f or glacier travel. [Note: This would require carrying extra ropes.]\n - Ava lanches: Low. Snow will be well consolidated, unless a heavy snow dump. How ever, if there is a heavy dump we are unlikely to want to immediately enter the area.Gear - Personal (Snow)\n - 2 tools; axe and hammer\n - Crampons\n - Harness (lightweight)\n - 2 non-locking biners\n - 3 locking biners\n - Descending device\n - 3 prussicks loops\n - 2 slingsGear - Joint (Snow)\n - 2 snow stakes [Mike, Dave]\n - 1 30m 8mm rope [Mike]\n - 1 Shovel? [Mike]G ear - Joint (Snow) [TBC]\n - 1 50m/60m\n - Avalanche poles, transcievers an d shovel per person. [My reading is that this equipment is not necessary gi ven the stability of the snow pack at this time of year. This was confirmed by Ben Winnubst, who is a very experienced mountaineer.] [Note: After asce nding and descending Sefton all the hardware becomes deadweight travelling down the Landsborough. It is important to gear ourselves for reasonable ris ks.] \nGear - Joint (All)\n - 2 billies [Mike 5L, ?? ***]\n - PLB [Andy]\n - Spectrum tent (3 - 4 person) [Ruth]\n - Two person tent [Heather]\n - GPS ; iPhone [Dave], Gecko [Mike]\n - Cooker MSR Whisperlight with spare parts [Dave]\n - 2.6L fuel [Dave]\n - One Backcountry Meal (2 serve {any kind}, e ach person bring one)\n - 9 dinners [Ruth, Heather]\n - 9 breakfast for 4 p eople (Mike bringing own 9) [Andy]\n - Maps covering; Sefton, Landsborough, Douglas route out, Welcome Flat and out. I will download likely routes int o GPS [Mike]. Other people bring maps and sort out Fox.\n\nFood\n - Andy pr eparing breakfast (9) for four people (Mike provide own).\n - Ruth and Heat her providing dinners (9)\n - Everyone provide one backcountry meal (2 serv e)\n - Everyone provide own lunch and snacksOther Gear\n - Dave not bringin g his fancy camera. We don't need five cameras on the trip? \nActions\n - M ike get Fox Glacier NZAC Hut code. [Alpine Guides open until 09:00pm]. Also Sam Mueller who manages the hut is in a caravan adjacent to the hut. Accor ding to Alpine Guide (Cloe) there are no bookings for the 26th. [Done. As m uch that can be until we arrive Fox and fill out a form.]\n - Heather confi rm flight for December 27th.Fox Glacier Village NZAC Hut \n\n - Divide up f ood\n - Pool joint hardware and divide up\n - Decide avalanche equipment (i f any)\n - Number of shovels, and take lightest\n - Plan B options [Need ma ps, so would be good to decide before leave Nelson] \n \nReferenceshttp://w ww.mountainradio.co.nz/bookings.htmlLinks (http://www.mountainradio.co.nz/b ookings.htmlLinks)\nhttp://www.metvuw.com/forecast/forecast.php?type=rain&a mp;region=nzsi&noofdays=7\nhttp://www.southernalpsphotography.com/Tramp ing/Mt-Cook-Westland/Mount-Sefton/10994140_MCjbt6#%21i=1002493045&k=WX2 v3mN\nhttp://highlux.co.nz/blog/2012/08/douglas-karangarua-valleys/\nRiver crossing using rope techniques\n This event was imported from: https://www. live.nelsontrampingclub.org.nz/events/events-search-results/117/sefton-land sborough?tmpl=component X-ALT-DESC;FMTTYPE=text/html:

Introduction

This webpage is a collatio n of all the emails, and should represent fairly closely the gear we are ta king. Heather and I had a telephone discussion around ropes and avalanche g ear. See notes in the text for further information.

The other hardwar e is my suggestion for Sefton based on my experience, and discussions with Ben Winnubst.

Please read and forward comments to me and I will updat e.

Note: '***' indicates information required.

People

Confirmed:

  1. Ruth Gray (This email address is be ing protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. ***)
  2. Heather Tate (This email address is being protected from spam bots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it., 027 650 2968)
  3. Andy Morris (This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.< /joomla-hidden-mail> ***)
  4. Dave Quested (This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it., 03 5459379, 021 778 144)
  5. Mike Drake (This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it., 03 5224458, 021 1044928, Heather Spence: 022

 

Objective

Sefton (main goal), then Walk out via Landsborough.

[Note: Sefton is not everyones main goal.]

Costs< /h3>

Vehicle: TBD

Mountain Radio: $??

Route

Helicopter from Karangarua landing at the head of the Horac e Walker Glacier. Establish camp around Welcome Pass. Climb Sefton via the west ridge (2+). Return to camp and the next day attain the Horace Walker H ut via Wicks Col. Gain head of the Landsborough through Douglas Pass; via M t Howitt, Mt Gladiator, or if the Douglas River is uncrossable via the nort h side of  Douglas Lake.

 

Heather spoke with Lydia Bradley a couple of weeks ago when we saw her at fox, and she said they we nt off the platform above Pioneer Peak, which is the easiest way so long as there is snow.

 

Plan

Stay NZAC Hut Fox Glacier December 26th [Mike organise]. Fly in with James Scott Helicopers. Leave both cars at the airfield. [secu re?].

Heather, Ruth and Andy are leaving Christchurch ar ound 15:00 and will arrive Fox Glacier township between 8 - 9pm. So Dave an d I will have organised the code. We should arrive late afternoon, dependin g on how many coffees we have enroute.

Heather Spence wi ll pickup if we do not fly out.

Day 1: Fly into head of Horace Walker Glacier (December 27th), and walk to campsite around Welcome Pass.< /p>

Day 2: Climb Sefton via West Ridge

Day 3: Horace Walker Hut via Wicks Col

Day 4: Landsborough via Douglas Pass

Day 5: 

Day 6:

Day 7:

Day 8: Advise Heather Spence progress and lik ely exit day 

Day 9: 

Day 10: Exit Landsborough

[Note: We have currenlty no Plan Bs if Sefton and/or Landsborough is not p ossible due to weather.]

 

Other Information

Cante rbury Mountain Radio 03 3435020/ 021365618

James Scott Helicopters, K arangarua (Fox office) 03 7510866

Fox Alpine Guides 03 7510825 < /p>

 

Risks

  1. River crossings due to snow melt in early summer. M itigate using standard crossing techniques, which also means using ropes. [ Reference FMC river crossing using rope. Mike to add ***].
  2. < span style="font-size: 14px;">Weather stopping progress down Landsborough. [Also weather preventing pickup by he licopter.]
  3. Crevasses, althoug h unless there has been heavy snow the glaciers will be well consolidated. Mitigated by roping up for glacier travel. [Note: This would require carryi ng extra ropes.]
  4. Avalanches: Low. Snow will be well consolidated, unless a heavy snow dump. However, if there is a heavy dump we are unlikely to want to immediately enter the area .

Gear - Personal (Snow)

  1. 2 tools; axe and hammer
  2. Crampons
  3. Harness (lightweight)
  4. 2 non-lo cking biners
  5. 3 locking biners
  6. Descending device
  7. 3 p russicks loops
  8. 2 slings

Gear - Joint (Snow)

    2 snow stakes [Mike, Dave]
  1. 1 30m 8mm rope [Mike]
  2. 1 Shovel ? [Mike]

Gear - Joint (Snow) [TBC]

  1. 1 50m/60m
    2. < li>Avalanche poles, transcievers and shovel per person. [My reading is that this equipment is not necessary given the stability of the snow pack at th is time of year. This was confirmed by Ben Winnubst, who is a very experien ced mountaineer.] 
[Note: After ascending and descending Sefton all the hardware becomes deadweight travelling down the Landsboroug h. It is important to gear ourselves for reasonable risks.]

 < /p>

Gear - Joint (All)

  1. 2 billies [Mike 5L, ?? ***]
  2. P LB [Andy]
  3. Spectrum tent (3 - 4 person) [Ruth]
  4. Two person te nt [Heather]
  5. GPS; iPhone [Dave], Gecko [Mike]
  6. Cooker MSR Wh isperlight with spare parts [Dave]
  7. 2.6L fuel [Dave]
  8. One Bac kcountry Meal (2 serve {any kind}, each person bring one)
  9. 9 dinners [Ruth, Heather]
  10. 9 breakfast for 4 people (Mike bringing own 9) [An dy]
  11. Maps covering; Sefton, Landsborough, Douglas route out, Welcome Flat and out. I will download likely routes into GPS [Mike]. Other people bring maps and sort out Fox.


Food

  1. Andy preparing breakfast (9) for four people (Mike provide own).
  2. Ruth a nd Heather providing dinners (9)
  3. Everyone provide one backcountry m eal (2 serve)
  4. Everyone provide own lunch and snacks

Ot her Gear

  1. Dave not bringing his fancy camera. We don't need five cameras on the trip?

 

Ac tions

  1. Mike get Fox Glacier NZAC Hut code. [Alpine Guides open u ntil 09:00pm]. Also Sam Mueller who manages the hut is in a caravan adjacen t to the hut. According to Alpine Guide (Cloe) there are no bookings for th e 26th. [Done. As much that can be until we arrive Fox and fill out a form. ]
  2. Heather confirm flight for December 27th.

Fox Glacie r Village NZAC Hut

 

  1. Divide up food
  2. Pool joi nt hardware and divide up
  3. Decide avalanche equipment (if any)
    4. < li>Number of shovels, and take lightest
  4. Plan B options [Need maps, so would be good to decide before leave Nelson]

 

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References

http://www.mountainradio.co.nz/bo okings.htmlLinks

http://www.metvuw.com/forecast/ forecast.php?type=rain&region=nzsi&noofdays=7

http://www.sout hernalpsphotography.com/Tramping/Mt-Cook-Westland/Mount-Sefton/10994140_MCj bt6#%21i=1002493045&k=WX2v3mN

http://highlux.co.nz/blog/2012/08/d ouglas-karangarua-valleys/

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